Hi, a post by Christian Perrier on debian-i18n made me go to http://translate.org.za/ ] Translate.org.za is a non-profit organisation producing Free and Open ] Source software that enables and empowers South Africans. The ] Translate Project started in 2001 with the vision of providing Free ] Software translated into the 11 official languages of South Africa. A news item on their main page tells: ] September 27, 2004 ] ] OOoCon - The OpenOffice.org conference in Berlin ] ] Translate.org.za attended OOoCon 2004which was held in Berlin from the ] 22 to 24 of September. ] ] Our goal was to raise the issues of localisation and the frustrations ] that we experience working with the OpenOffice,org project. Dwayne ] presented a paper on Translate.org.za - our tools goals and ] philosophy. ] ] It was very important that we were there - we met with partners in the ] Khmer team and completed work on some of the Translate Toolkit. Most ] people within the OpenOffice community think the OpenOffice.org is ] managing localisation quite well - we were able to give them a ] translators view of that assumption. People are listening and there ] are some changes that will hopefully feature in OpenOffice.org 2.0 ] that will make it easier to produce and use translated version of ] OpenOffice.org They develop tools similar to po4a (see <URL:http://translate.sf.net/>) and currently support Mozilla and OpenOffice.org formats. Their website has many very useful tips and documentation, e.g. I liked http://sf.net/projects/gettextlog/ which is a program to log calls to gettext when programs are run, in order to determine which msgids are seldom displayed and can be ignored at first. Denis