Re: [Po4a-devel]HTML translating
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:36:29PM +0000, Yves Rutschle wrote:
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 02:22:42PM +0100, Martin Quinson wrote:
> Ok. I wanted to reply this message the way it desserve (with a long
> argumentation to base my point)
Thank you for sharing your experience; I'm getting convinced
now.
Thansk for your patience. I'll have to be even shorter tonight...
[splitting in HTML blocs]
> > That's actually fairly easily achievable: the list of
> > paragraph-marking tags is fairly small (<p>, <div>,
> > <h1,2,3,4,...>) and XHTML makes it mandatory for text to be
> > included in a block-level element of some sort.
>
> You thus have to show some formating tags to the translators. We do so in
> all other modules. I don't see any better idea.
Ok. Well, I'm afraid that means I'm gonna have to ditch the
current Html.pm and redo one from scratch (bar a couple of
routines that may be recued).
I see three solutions to implement a Html module:
- pretend html is a xml dialect (xhtml is), and use Jordi's parser.
It should be about 20 lines long. See the Guide module for an example.
- pretend html is a sgml dialect, and use the sgml module for that. It
will work if all html pages begin with a prolog stating the dtd. It
should be the case, isn't it ?
Then you have to list all tags in the relevant lists around line 400 of
Sgml.pm. Just add a " } elsif ($prolog =~ /html/i) {" block, and
do the same than for other DTDs.
- recognize html is uniq. You have to implement a whole new module in that
case. You may well want to check how we did it for the sgml and xml
modules. The best may be to translate a file with both of them, or so.
This is a <a
href="blahblah.com/this/that/blah.html">link</a> to <img
src="blahblah.com/this/that/blah.png" alt="blah"
title="Blah">
[doesn't] belongs to a PO.
So I'd propose to collapse the inside of long inline tags,
so as to simply state there is a tag (e.g. "you're in a
link") without detailing what the tag contains. Thus, the
example line would appear, in the PO, as:
This is a <a>link</a> to <img>blah</img>
I'm not fond of this because if the translator wants/have to reordonate the
links, you'll have trouble. Check the gettext info file, in the section
explaining what "%2$s" is good for. It's not impossible, but you have to
deal with it.
![src="blahblah.com/this/that/blah.png"](http://src="blahblah.com/this/that/blah.png%22){kind=link}
[HTML::Parser vs Jordi's XML parser]
> Moreover, I'd be pleased to cut a dependency. I hate unjustified
> dependencies, but it may be personal.
Me too, but I hate reimplementation of code (reinventing the
wheel) more.
Then, that's an argument of pretending that html is xml or sgml and not
reimplement any specif po4a module :)
Ok, I'm sorry, this mail really should be longer, but I'm out of time, man.
Mt.
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