4:07 a.m.
Hello friends,
I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would like
to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have an
opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
of the translations are the following:
Binaries:
1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
ko (18%).
Documentation:
8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one, in
case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will see.
Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
Mt
4:22 p.m.
New subject: Planned po4a release on January 15. Please translate & test
Hello,
This is a gentle reminder that we have a release scheduled over the week-end.
The current translation stats follow. Thanks to anyone involved in this
upcoming release.
Binaries:
3 languages = 100%: es, it, ru.
13 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), ja (94%),
nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
1 language >= 80%: hu (88%).
1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
ko (18%).
Documentation:
1 language = 100%: it.
7 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (99%), fr (96%), ja (96%), nl (96%),
sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (64%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
Thanks again,
Mt
Le samedi 06 janvier 2024 à 11:07 +0100, Martin Quinson a écrit :
Hello friends,
I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would
like
to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have
an
opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
of the translations are the following:
Binaries:
1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
ko (18%).
Documentation:
8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one,
in
case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will
see.
Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
Mt
6:35 p.m.
"Force the encoding of %s to UTF-8 (was %s), as mixing encodings may break
msgmerge."
What does this do?
Force an interpretation of the file as UTF-8? Force a conversion to UTF-8?
JC
On Jan 13, 2024, at 7:22, Martin Quinson
<Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr> wrote:
Hello,
This is a gentle reminder that we have a release scheduled over the week-end.
The current translation stats follow. Thanks to anyone involved in this
upcoming release.
Binaries:
3 languages = 100%: es, it, ru.
13 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), ja (94%),
nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
1 language >= 80%: hu (88%).
1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
ko (18%).
Documentation:
1 language = 100%: it.
7 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (99%), fr (96%), ja (96%), nl (96%),
sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (64%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
Thanks again,
Mt
Le samedi 06 janvier 2024 à 11:07 +0100, Martin Quinson a écrit :
> Hello friends,
>
> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would
> like
> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have
> an
> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
> of the translations are the following:
>
> Binaries:
> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> ko (18%).
>
> Documentation:
> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>
> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>
> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one,
> in
> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will
> see.
>
> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
> Mt
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5:39 p.m.
New subject: Planned po4a release on January 15. Please translate & test
Hello,
I just added this TODO to the source before the offending line:
# TODO: rewrite to "msgmerge suffers some bugs when PO files are not
# encoded in UTF-8; Recoding %s to UTF-8 (was %s) to circumvent the issue"
I hope it helps understanding the current wording.
Thanks for your help, and for the remark.
Mt
Le samedi 13 janvier 2024 à 00:26 +0000, suzume(a)protonmail.com a écrit :
"Force the encoding of %s to UTF-8 (was %s), as mixing encodings
may break
msgmerge."
What does this do?
Force an interpretation of the file as UTF-8? Force a conversion to UTF-8?
JC
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 7:22, Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is a gentle reminder that we have a release scheduled over the week-
> end.
> The current translation stats follow. Thanks to anyone involved in this
> upcoming release.
>
> Binaries:
> 3 languages = 100%: es, it, ru.
> 13 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), ja (94%),
> nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 1 language >= 80%: hu (88%).
> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> ko (18%).
>
> Documentation:
> 1 language = 100%: it.
> 7 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (99%), fr (96%), ja (96%), nl (96%),
> sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (64%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>
> Thanks again,
> Mt
>
> Le samedi 06 janvier 2024 à 11:07 +0100, Martin Quinson a écrit :
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would
> > like
> > to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you
> > have
> > an
> > opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current
> > state
> > of the translations are the following:
> >
> > Binaries:
> > 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
> > 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
> > ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR
> > (94%),
> > sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant
> > (90%).
> > 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
> > 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> > 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> > sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> > 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> > 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> > ko (18%).
> >
> > Documentation:
> > 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
> > nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> > 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> > 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
> > 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> > 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
> >
> > The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
> >
> > There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this
> > one,
> > in
> > case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not.
> > Will
> > see.
> >
> > Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
> > Mt
>
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6:34 p.m.
"Inline lists and dictionaries on a single line are not correctly handled the parser
we use (YAML::Tiny): they are interpreted as regular strings. Please use multi-lines
definitions instead. Offending line:"
It seems to me that it should be "... not correctly handled *by* the parser we
use..."
JC
On Jan 14, 2024, at 8:39, Martin Quinson
<Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr> wrote:
Hello,
I just added this TODO to the source before the offending line:
# TODO: rewrite to "msgmerge suffers some bugs when PO files are not
# encoded in UTF-8; Recoding %s to UTF-8 (was %s) to circumvent the issue"
I hope it helps understanding the current wording.
Thanks for your help, and for the remark.
Mt
Le samedi 13 janvier 2024 à 00:26 +0000, suzume(a)protonmail.com a écrit :
> "Force the encoding of %s to UTF-8 (was %s), as mixing encodings may break
> msgmerge."
>
> What does this do?
>
> Force an interpretation of the file as UTF-8? Force a conversion to UTF-8?
>
> JC
>
>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 7:22, Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is a gentle reminder that we have a release scheduled over the week-
>> end.
>> The current translation stats follow. Thanks to anyone involved in this
>> upcoming release.
>>
>> Binaries:
>> 3 languages = 100%: es, it, ru.
>> 13 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), ja (94%),
>> nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
>> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
>> 1 language >= 80%: hu (88%).
>> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
>> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
>> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
>> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
>> ko (18%).
>>
>> Documentation:
>> 1 language = 100%: it.
>> 7 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (99%), fr (96%), ja (96%), nl (96%),
>> sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
>> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
>> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (64%).
>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
>> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Mt
>>
>> Le samedi 06 janvier 2024 à 11:07 +0100, Martin Quinson a écrit :
>>> Hello friends,
>>>
>>> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would
>>> like
>>> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you
>>> have
>>> an
>>> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current
>>> state
>>> of the translations are the following:
>>>
>>> Binaries:
>>> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
>>> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
>>> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR
>>> (94%),
>>> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant
>>> (90%).
>>> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
>>> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
>>> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
>>> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
>>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
>>> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
>>> ko (18%).
>>>
>>> Documentation:
>>> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
>>> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
>>> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
>>> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
>>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
>>> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>>>
>>> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>>>
>>> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this
>>> one,
>>> in
>>> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not.
>>> Will
>>> see.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
>>> Mt
>>
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>
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3:01 a.m.
"Force the encoding of %s to UTF-8 (was %s), as mixing encodings may break
msgmerge."
What does this do?
Force an interpretation of the file as UTF-8? Force a conversion to UTF-8?
JC
On Jan 13, 2024, at 7:22, Martin Quinson
<Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr> wrote:
Hello,
This is a gentle reminder that we have a release scheduled over the week-end.
The current translation stats follow. Thanks to anyone involved in this
upcoming release.
Binaries:
3 languages = 100%: es, it, ru.
13 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), ja (94%),
nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
1 language >= 80%: hu (88%).
1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
ko (18%).
Documentation:
1 language = 100%: it.
7 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (99%), fr (96%), ja (96%), nl (96%),
sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (64%).
1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
Thanks again,
Mt
Le samedi 06 janvier 2024 à 11:07 +0100, Martin Quinson a écrit :
> Hello friends,
>
> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would
> like
> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have
> an
> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
> of the translations are the following:
>
> Binaries:
> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> ko (18%).
>
> Documentation:
> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>
> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>
> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one,
> in
> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will
> see.
>
> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
> Mt
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2:43 a.m.
New subject: Planned po4a release on January 15. Please translate & test
Hi, it looks like a user replaced all French translation of "translator"
as "traductaire" instead of "traducteur".
I'm confused on why using this word I never heard about, it's everywhere...
I pinged the user here:
https://hosted.weblate.org/translate/po4a/po4a-doc/fr/?checksum=0f05dda87...
Martin, I assume I can replace this translation everywhere tonight
before the release or do you see any reason to keep this weird word?
Le 06/01/2024 à 11:07, Martin Quinson a écrit :
> Hello friends,
>
> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would like
> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have an
> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
> of the translations are the following:
>
> Binaries:
> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> ko (18%).
>
> Documentation:
> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>
> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>
> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one, in
> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will see.
>
> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
> Mt
>
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2:58 a.m.
Salut Jean-Baptiste,
Traductaire is a neologism epicene word that's currently in use in the translation
industry where more than 80% of translators are women.
I also reworded some sentences to remove the necessity for a grammatical gender
agreement.
Jean-Christophe
On Jan 14, 2024, at 17:43, Jean-Baptiste
<jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote:
Hi, it looks like a user replaced all French translation of "translator"
as "traductaire" instead of "traducteur".
I'm confused on why using this word I never heard about, it's everywhere...
I pinged the user here:
https://hosted.weblate.org/translate/po4a/po4a-doc/fr/?checksum=0f05dda87...
Martin, I assume I can replace this translation everywhere tonight
before the release or do you see any reason to keep this weird word?
Le 06/01/2024 à 11:07, Martin Quinson a écrit :
> Hello friends,
>
> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would like
> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have an
> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
> of the translations are the following:
>
> Binaries:
> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
> ko (18%).
>
> Documentation:
> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>
> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>
> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one, in
> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will see.
>
> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
> Mt
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3:03 a.m.
I also tried to review the whole document to adapt it to the 1990 spelling reform.
I may have missed some items, though.
Jean-Christophe
On Jan 14, 2024, at 17:58, Jean-Christophe Helary via Devel
<devel(a)lists.po4a.org> wrote:
Salut Jean-Baptiste,
Traductaire is a neologism epicene word that's currently in use in the translation
industry where more than 80% of translators are women.
I also reworded some sentences to remove the necessity for a grammatical gender
agreement.
Jean-Christophe
> On Jan 14, 2024, at 17:43, Jean-Baptiste <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi, it looks like a user replaced all French translation of "translator"
> as "traductaire" instead of "traducteur".
>
> I'm confused on why using this word I never heard about, it's everywhere...
>
> I pinged the user here:
> https://hosted.weblate.org/translate/po4a/po4a-doc/fr/?checksum=0f05dda87...
>
> Martin, I assume I can replace this translation everywhere tonight
> before the release or do you see any reason to keep this weird word?
>
> Le 06/01/2024 à 11:07, Martin Quinson a écrit :
>> Hello friends,
>>
>> I think we have a rather interesting set of changes in the git, and would like
>> to go for a release in a week or so. Please test the current git if you have an
>> opportunity, and update your translations if you have some. The current state
>> of the translations are the following:
>>
>> Binaries:
>> 1 language >= 95%: es (96%).
>> 14 languages >= 90%: de (94%), eo (92%), fr (94%), hr (90%), it (94%),
>> ja (94%), nb (93%), nl (94%), pt (94%), pt_BR (94%),
>> sr_Cyrl (94%), uk (94%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
>> 2 languages >= 80%: hu (88%), ru (89%).
>> 1 language >= 70%: id (74%).
>> 8 languages >= 50%: cs (56%), da (62%), et (65%), eu (54%), pl (60%),
>> sl (54%), sv (69%), vi (65%).
>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (43%).
>> 6 starting languages: ace (2%), af (7%), ar (13%), ka (16%), kn (7%),
>> ko (18%).
>>
>> Documentation:
>> 8 languages >= 95%: de (96%), es (97%), fr (96%), it (96%), ja (96%),
>> nl (96%), sr_Cyrl (96%), uk (96%).
>> 4 languages >= 90%: pt (91%), pt_BR (91%), zh_Hans (90%), zh_Hant (90%).
>> 2 languages >= 50%: pl (65%), ru (62%).
>> 1 language >= 33%: ca (42%).
>> 4 starting languages: eo (2%), hr (0%), hu (0%), nb (4%).
>>
>> The changelog is here: https://github.com/mquinson/po4a/blob/master/NEWS
>>
>> There is a possibility that we need another release shortly after this one, in
>> case some bugs are reported against all those changes, but maybe not. Will see.
>>
>> Thanks for your help, and have a good one.
>> Mt
>>
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5:18 a.m.
New subject: Planned po4a release on January 15. Please translate & test
I have never heard of such a word but I fully agree that we can be more inclusive. Would
prefer a longer sentence including both genders, would it work for you ?
5:33 a.m.
On Jan 14, 2024, at 20:18, Jean-Baptiste
<jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote:
I have never heard of such a word but I fully agree that we can be more inclusive. Would
prefer a longer sentence including both genders, would it work for you ?
When I both authored and translated the OmegaT 6.0 manuals, I tried to avoid sentences
where gender appeared. So I went back and forth between the French and the English (which
was also checked by a native - Canadian - contributor) to fix most of the appearances of
gendered nouns.
For ex. I tried to mostly use “utilisation” and in a few cases where that was not possible
I used “la personne qui utilise” (and since occurrences were few, it was not too weird).
With OmegaT, the user is the translator, so it is easier the use the second person and
avoid gendered terms. In po4a translators are a third party, since the po4a user is more
generally the maintainer, so there is a significant number of 3rd person occurrences of
“translator(s)”, and even if in many cases it would be easy to use “the translation”
instead (and hide the translator), that would involve the passive form and would not be
super elegant.
I understand too that there is no rush and I would not mind if you removed “traductaires”
(I used the plural to remove the need to use le/la) altogether for now. But I am sure that
there are elegant ways to produce a natural sounding inclusive French version, so I’m open
for discussion. Professionally speaking I’m also investigating a lot to make my
translation sound natural and the less gendered possible. There are ways to do that that
do not involve new artefacts (I actually removed a (e) in the current translation), it’s
just a matter of thinking of new ways to write.
So, anyway, thank you for reacting to my changes, and I hope the rest is OK with you.
6:17 p.m.
New subject: Planned po4a release on January 15. Please translate & test
Hello,
thanks you guys for taking care of these things. I must say that "traductaire"
sounds a bit weird in French, doesn't it? My personal way of making a text
gender-inclusive is to alternate from one sentence to the other, or to write it
all in feminin form after a footnote explaining the fact this arbitrary choice.
In the case of po4a, I don't have any strong opinion, but I would really
appreciate if someone finds a way to make it inclusive.
Thanks, Mt
Le dimanche 14 janvier 2024 à 11:33 +0000, Jean-Christophe Helary via Devel a
écrit :
> On Jan 14, 2024, at 20:18, Jean-Baptiste <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote:
>
> I have never heard of such a word but I fully agree that we can be more
> inclusive. Would prefer a longer sentence including both genders, would it
> work for you ?
When I both authored and translated the OmegaT 6.0 manuals, I tried to avoid
sentences where gender appeared. So I went back and forth between the French
and the English (which was also checked by a native - Canadian - contributor)
to fix most of the appearances of gendered nouns.
For ex. I tried to mostly use “utilisation” and in a few cases where that was
not possible I used “la personne qui utilise” (and since occurrences were
few, it was not too weird).
With OmegaT, the user is the translator, so it is easier the use the second
person and avoid gendered terms. In po4a translators are a third party, since
the po4a user is more generally the maintainer, so there is a significant
number of 3rd person occurrences of “translator(s)”, and even if in many
cases it would be easy to use “the translation” instead (and hide the
translator), that would involve the passive form and would not be super
elegant.
I understand too that there is no rush and I would not mind if you removed
“traductaires” (I used the plural to remove the need to use le/la) altogether
for now. But I am sure that there are elegant ways to produce a natural
sounding inclusive French version, so I’m open for discussion. Professionally
speaking I’m also investigating a lot to make my translation sound natural
and the less gendered possible. There are ways to do that that do not involve
new artefacts (I actually removed a (e) in the current translation), it’s
just a matter of thinking of new ways to write.
So, anyway, thank you for reacting to my changes, and I hope the rest is OK
with you.
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4:53 p.m.
On Jan 15, 2024, at 9:17, Martin Quinson
<Martin.Quinson(a)ens-rennes.fr> wrote:
Hello,
thanks you guys for taking care of these things. I must say that "traductaire"
sounds a bit weird in French, doesn't it?
When you're used to it, it doesn't :) Je suis un traductaire libre.
My personal way of making a text
gender-inclusive is to alternate from one sentence to the other, or to write it
all in feminin form after a footnote explaining the fact this arbitrary choice.
In the case of po4a, I don't have any strong opinion, but I would really
appreciate if someone finds a way to make it inclusive.
Ok. Thank you.
Jean-Baptiste, let's find ways to improve the documentation. Modify my
proposals as you think is appropriate and let's consider ways to adapt
the current documentation until the next version.
--
Jean-Christophe Helary @jchelary(a)emacs.ch
https://traductaire-libre.org
https://mac4translators.blogspot.com
https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/
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