From osamu at debian.org Mon Mar  7 14:31:53 2011
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From: Osamu Aoki <osamu at debian.org>
To: devel at lists.po4a.org
Subject: [Po4a-devel] po4a #518218: [DocBook] Add support for translator
 credits
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:24:57 +0900
Message-ID: <20110307142456.GA14846@debian.org>

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Hi,

I wanted to add translator credits and it looked to me that, instead of
waiting bug  #518218 to be implemented, it is better to use existing
feature --- addendum.
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D518218

My conclusion:  It is not so simple for DocBook module.  It does not
work as it used to work under DebianDoc SGML .

Here is why.

This addendum feature is serious headache to be honest.  It seems to be run=
 on
section-by-section of XML source instead of actual lines.

When I have french version of maint-guide without addendum but just
translated from base English version after DocBook conversion.

| <title>Guide du nouveau responsable Debian</title>
| <bookinfo>
| <authorgroup>
| <author> <personname> <firstname>Josip</firstname> <surname>Rodin</surnam=
e> </personname> <email>joy-mg(a)debian.org</email> <contrib>(original cont=
ents)</contrib> </author>
| <author> <personname> <firstname>Osamu</firstname> <surname>Aoki</surname=
> </personname> <email>osamu(a)debian.org</email> <contrib>(updated content=
s)</contrib> </author>
| =

| <!-- Add othercredit role=3D"translator" via po4a/translator.*.addendum -=
->
| </authorgroup>
| ...
| <legalnotice>
| <para>
| Ce document peut =C3=AAtre utilis=C3=A9 selon les termes de la Licence pu=
blique
| g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale de GNU version=C2=A02 ou suivante.
| ...
| </para>
| </legalnotice>
| </bookinfo>
| ...

I naturally want to do following using stable comment text:

| PO4A-HEADER:mode=3Dafter;position=3Dothercredit;beginboundary=3D^
|    <othercredit role=3D"translation">Traduction par <personname><firstnam=
e>Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric<firstname> <lastname>Dumont</lasname></personname><ema=
il>frederic.dumont(a)easynet.be</email></othercredit>

Then this whole thing is added after "</bookinfo>".  Oh, no.  As I
experimented, the whole "<bookinfo>...</bookinfo>" section seems to be
treated as a single unit for addendum.  I have no way to insert text
here where addendum is required.

For now, I decided to add comment lines where changes are needed and use
unified diff and patch to make required changes available.

Isn't this patch approach simpler and more generic?  All we need to do
is to add

| PO4A-HEADER:mode=3Dpatch
... place patch file

Hmm... since current addendum is done within Perl, it may be cleaner
doing this after normal po4a-translate by applying series of patches:
01_foo.fr.patch, 02_bar.fr.patch, ... I guess I add this feature to my
makefile for now.

Osamu



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From atsutane at freethoughts.de Wed Mar  9 22:19:46 2011
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To: devel at lists.po4a.org
Subject: [Po4a-devel] Subscription
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:55:59 +0100
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Hello,


Kind Regards
Thorsten T=C3=B6pper

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From tgermer at think-cell.com Mon Mar 21 12:11:14 2011
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From: Tobias Germer <tgermer at think-cell.com>
To: devel at lists.po4a.org
Subject: [Po4a-devel] Nested LaTeX commands
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:58:53 +0100
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Hi all,

I am currently evaluating po4a to see if it is suitable for translating
our documentation written in LaTeX. I found the problem that po4a
doesn't seem to parse commands recursively. For example, if I define
these two commands:

  % po4a: command -doTranslate {_}
  % po4a: command -doNotTranslate {}

and translate the following tex source:

  \doTranslate{
  test string =

  =

  \doNotTranslate{test2}
  }

Then po4a produces:

  msgid "test string \\doNotTranslate{test2}"
  msgstr ""

I think \\doNotTranslate{test2} should not show up there. Indeed, when
you change the tex source to: =


  \doTranslate{
  test string =

  }
  =

  \doNotTranslate{test2}

The output changes to the correct format:

  msgid "test string"
  msgstr ""

I think this is a severe limitation of po4a, since you can always define
nested commands in LaTeX, like "\textbf{This \emph{is} an {\huge
example} text.}"
Does the LaTeX module ignore this case or is it just bug? If yes, could
it be fixed easily?

Regards,
Tobias =



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